Taylor Swift fans speculate her songs are about Matty Healy and Joe Alwyn – who are they? (2024)

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Taylor Swift releases new double album

Taylor Swift dropped her highly-anticipated "The Tortured Poets Department" on Friday and at 2 a.m. the star surprised fans by dropping an additional 15 tracks, calling it a "double album." Fans furiously began dissecting the lyrics of the songs, trying to discern who they were about. Many speculate most songs are about her recent exes, Matt Healy and Joe Alwyn. Who are they?

Who is Joe Alwyn?

Alwyn, a 33-year-old British actor, and Swift began dating in 2016 and broke up last year while she was on her Eras tour. He is known for films like the Oscar-nominated "The Favourite" and "Mary Queen of Scots."

Swift, known for writing songs about her high-profile relationships and giving fans Easter eggs as to who they are about, has admitted to writing songs about Alwyn before. In 2022, she told Entertainment Tonight that the song "Lavender Haze" from her album "Midnights" is about wanting to stay in the "lavender haze" feeling you have when you're in love – even when it's made difficult.

"Like my relationship for six years, we've had to dodge weird rumors, tabloid stuff and we just ignore it. This song is sort of about the act of ignoring that stuff to protect the real stuff," she said.

Taylor Swift fans speculate her songs are about Matty Healy and Joe Alwyn – who are they? (1)

Alwyn has even contributed to Swift's albums before, under the pseudonym William Bowery, ET reports. He is credited in the track "Sweet Nothing" on "Midnights" as well as several songs on "Folklore and "Evermore," her two 2020 albums.

Swift confirmed in her documentary "Folklore: The Long Pond Studio Sessions" that Alwyn was on those albums. He contributed to the songs "Exile," "Betty," "Champagne Problems," "Coney Island" and "Evermore" and even won a Grammy for his work.

Alwyn lives in London, so fans speculate her track "So Long To London" on "The Tortured Poets Department" is about their breakup.

After her public feud with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West in 2016, Swift "moved to a foreign country," she told Time Magazine during her "Person of the Year" cover interview last year. "I didn't leave a rental house for a year. I was afraid to get on phone calls." These feelings are reflected in the lyrics of the song.

Several songs on the new album are about a difficult breakup, including "Down Bad," "My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys," "Fresh Out the Slammer," and "Fortnite," which features Post Malone.

Who is Matty Healy?

Healy is a member of the band 1975. He and Swift have supported each other's music throughout the years – with the pop star attending one of his concerts in 2014.

Romance rumors swirled then, and Healy said in a 2016 interview with Q Magazine that he had a "flirtation" with Swift, which gained him news coverage, but that she "wasn't a big impact" on his life, ET reports.

Healy once wore a t-shirt promoting Swift's 1989 album during a concert and Swift was photographed wearing a 1975 shirt.

When "Midnights" came out in 2021, Healy admitted his band recorded a song with Swift for the album but it didn't make the cut.

Taylor Swift fans speculate her songs are about Matty Healy and Joe Alwyn – who are they? (2)

Then, about a month after her breakup with Alwyn, Healy attended the Eras tour in May 2023, and the pair were photographed holding hands. They were spotted together several times, but called it quits in June, ET reports.

Fans speculate her song new, "Fortnight," is about Healy because of the several blatant references to their mutual friends.

"Sometimes I wonder if you're gonna screw this up with me, But you told Lucy you'd kill yourself if I ever leave," she sings, seemingly referring to Lucy Dacus, a member of the band Boygenius.

"And I had said that to Jack about you so I felt seen, Everyone we know understands why it's meant to be," she sings in another verse, seemingly referring to her frequent collaborator Jack Antonoff, who helped Swift and Healy reconnect, a source told ET.

Travis Kelce

After her brief relationship with Healy, Swift began dating Kansas City Chiefs star Travis Kelce after he attended an Eras tour concert. Their relationship soon became a massive spectacle, with fans and media following their every move.

Swift was first seen at a Chiefs game in September 2023 and attended several other games, often bringing celebrity friends. There was much fanfare over her attendance at theSuper Bowl, which the team won. She is even attributed withboosting sales of Kelce's jersey.

Taylor Swift fans speculate her songs are about Matty Healy and Joe Alwyn – who are they? (3)

Fans speculate her new song "Alchemy" is about Kelce because the love song includes many subtle football references.

"So when I touch down, call the amateurs and cut 'em from the team," she sings.

Swift and Kelce often travel to be together and "touch down" could be a play-on-words for a football touchdown.

"These blokes warm the benches, we've been on a winning streak," she sings in another line.

"Where's the trophy? He just comes runnin' over to me," is a line that fans speculate is about Swift and Kelce embracing after his Super Bowl win.

Kim Kardashian

On "The Tortured Poets Department," there is a song called "thanK you aIMee" – stylized so the letters KIM are capitalized. Fans believe this is a blatant reference to Kim Kardashian.

Aside from referencing a "bronze spray-tanned statue," which likely refers to spray tan fan Kardashian, Swift appears to sing about the fallout after her feud with Kardashian and Kanye West, the rapper known as Ye.

Ever since Ye interrupted Swift's acceptance speech at the 2009 VMAs, there has been tension between the artists that seems to have never gone away.

When Ye released a song that referenced Swift in 2016, Swift claimed she was not OK with the lyrics. But Kardashian released audio from a phone call between Swift and Ye during which Swift appears to give the rapper her blessing to mention her in the song.

Taylor Swift fans speculate her songs are about Matty Healy and Joe Alwyn – who are they? (4)

"All that time you were throwin' punches, it was all for nothin'," Swift sings in "thanK you aIMee."

"I wrote a thousand songs that you find uncool, I built a legacy, which you can't undo, But when I count the scars, there's a moment of truth, That there wouldn't be this if there hadn't been you," she sings in another song.

The three appeared to have mended their rift several times, with Ye sending Swift flowers and Kardashian and Swift seen dancing during a Ye performance at an awards show. But the feud was seen to have damaged Swift's reputation – and fans believe her album "Reputation" was inspired by the fallout. In her Time interview, Swift called the scandal "a career death."

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Taylor Swift fans speculate her songs are about Matty Healy and Joe Alwyn – who are they? (2024)

FAQs

What song did Taylor write about Matty Healy? ›

"But Daddy I Love Him": Taylor raised eyebrows when she spent time with Matty, who's been called out for his controverisal comments over the years. In "But Daddy I Love Him," she addresses a similar theme of wanting a relationship to work despite criticism from the outside world.

What songs did Taylor Swift write about Joe Alwyn? ›

Swift has referenced the color blue in relation to Alwyn many times throughout her music. She's also touched on wanting to build a life with Alwyn and get married in songs like “Paper Rings,” “Lover,” “Peace” and “You're Losing Me.

What is the meaning behind The Tortured Poets Department? ›

The song revolves around the idea of what happens when the choices you've made and their consequences catch up to you, and where you can run to escape them. According to Swift, she regularly watches stories of people on Dateline who commit crimes and immediately flee to Florida to seek a new identity.

Who are Taylor Swift's Speak Now songs about? ›

Swift has said the title track, "Speak Now," was inspired by a friend of hers after the "guy she had been in love with since childhood was marrying this other girl." Fans think this friend was Paramore's Hayley Williams, whose ex-boyfriend, Josh Farro, married someone else in 2010.

How long did Matty Healy and Taylor Swift date? ›

Taylor Swift and The 1975 frontman Matty Healy first sparked couple rumors in 2014. (He denied it.) They were linked again in 2023 but reportedly split after about one month of dating. Swift seems to reference their short-lived romance on her new album "The Tortured Poets Department."

Who has Matty Healy been with? ›

Healy, the 35-year-old frontman of alt-rock group The 1975, has been romantically linked to several musicians, like Swift, Halsey and FKA twigs. Fans theorized several of the tracks from Swift's 31-song album were about her romance with Healy, whom she was tied to for several months last year.

What did Joe Alwyn say about Taylor Swift? ›

The outlet's piece was published before Swift released her track list, where fans really started speculating Alwyn was a muse for the album given “So Long, London.” The Alwyn source said, “Joe has not said one word about Taylor or their breakup and has been completely respectful of her.

When did Taylor Swift date Matty Healy? ›

Ahead, see everything we know about Swift and Healy's romantic history—including their first rumors they were dating in 2014, their brief summer dalliance in 2023, and the songs Swift released on 2024 album The Tortured Poets Department about their relationship.

How did Taylor Swift meet Joe Alwyn? ›

May 2, 2016: They meet at the Met Gala (probably).

Nobody knows for sure when Swift and Alwyn first met. But sleuths have determined that the song “Dress” on her 2017 album Reputation might refer to their first meeting. The lyrics in question: “Flashback to when you met me, your buzzed cut and my hair bleached.”

Which poet went to jail? ›

Reginald Dwayne Betts grew up an honor student with hopes for college, but went to prison at 16 for carjacking, his first run-in with the law. Reading, and poetry in particular, became a comfort and gave him a new identity.

What is the meaning behind Taylor Swift's new album? ›

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After its release, Swift called the album “an anthology of new works that reflect events, opinions and sentiments from a fleeting and fatalistic moment in time — one that was both sensational and sorrowful in equal measure.”

Why are they called poets? ›

'Poet' comes from a Greek word meaning "to make." The word poet, which has been in use in English for more than 600 years, comes from the Greek word poiētēs, itself from poiein, meaning "to make." The word also shares an ancestor with the Sanskrit word cinoti, meaning "he gathers, heaps up."

Why does Taylor Swift have a red Speak Now? ›

Many fans were upset that there was now "Red Dress" version of the album released as a target exclusive. Swift later decided to extend Speak Now(Taylor's Version) due to this, in addition to wanting to also reclaim the acoustic versions from the Deluxe Edition of the Original Speak Now.

How many boyfriends has Taylor Swift had? ›

Taylor Swift has 12 publicly known exes. Who was the first famous person Taylor Swift dated? Reportedly, Joe Jonas.

How many cats does Taylor Swift have? ›

The pop star is a package deal with her three cats, named Meredith Grey, Olivia Benson and Benjamin Button. The feline trio often make appearances in social media posts, public outings, ads and music videos.

What song did Halsey write about Matty Healy? ›

This wouldn't be the first time Healy may have served as the inspiration behind a buzzy song. In 2015, Halsey released the track “Colors,” which is rumored to be about their fling with the British singer.

What song did Matty Healy wrote for One Direction? ›

"The Sound" was presented to One Direction during a writing session with Healy. Rumours of a collaboration between Healy and One Direction surfaced in 2014. The singer later confirmed the veracity of the rumour during an interview with Q, revealing that he entered the studio with the band.

What happened with Matty Healy and Halsey? ›

The twosome called it quits one month later, with a source telling Us, “They had fun together, but it was never serious.”

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